Frequently Asked Questions by Interns
Q1. Who must meet the IDP requirements in Illinois?
A. All candidates for licensure in Illinois. The only exception is an architect who has already received a license to practice in another state when that state's licensing requirements were the same or more stringent than Illinois' requirements at the time the other state's license was received - for instance, if an architect was licensed in Michigan prior to June 27, 1994, that architect can be licensed in Illinois "by endorsement" (reciprocity) without going through the IDP process because neither Illinois nor Michigan required IDP at that time.
Q2. How do I begin to establish my NCARB Record?
A. You can start an NCARB Record online https://my.ncarb.org/Home/Account/Register
Q3. What type of an academic degree must I obtain to be eligible to take the Architectural Registration Examination in Illinois?
A. You must have either one of the following degrees:
1. A professional NAAB-accredited degree in architecture -- B. Arch. or M. Arch.You should be aware that a professional degree in architecture (B.Arch. or a M.Arch.) is currently required to obtain an"NCARB Certificate." If you have not been licensed to practice architecture in Illinois by July of 1996, you may not be able to obtain an NCARB Certificate with a B.A. or B.S. pre-professional degree in architecture (4-year degree). Without an NCARB Certificate, it may be more difficult or impossible to become licensed in another state by reciprocity.2. Until January 1, 2014, a pre-professional 4 year degree in architectural studies from a college that is approved by the Illinois Architect Licensing Board. Note that as of January 1, 2014, you must have a professional degree in Architecture (B. Arch. or M. Arch.) to apply for licensure in Illinois.
Q4. How much does it cost to establish an NCARB Record?
A. There are two cost possibilities:
1. $350.00 one time up-front fee paid to NCARB now to establish your NCARB Record, and maintain it for three years, plus $75.00 per year for time beyond the first three year prepaid period for maintaining your Record (note that the three year prepaid record maintenence period does not start until after you have graduated from either a 4-year pre-professional degree program or a M.Arch. degree program).Q5. How long will it take to complete my internship under IDP?2. If you are a high school graduate or have graduated from college within the past 6 months, pay $100.00 to NCARB now. You will pay the remainder of the NCARB Record fee at the time you request NCARB to sit for the Architect Registration Examination.
A. In Illinois, the IDP internship should take the following time, depending on your degree:
1. NAAB-accredited B. Arch. or M. Arch. first professional degree: 5,600 Training Hours, or a little over 2 1/2 years.Since there is no distinction between overtime hours spent to accumulate training hours, the actual duration of training could be somewhat shortened by working overtime. The AIA "Emerging Professional's Companion" (www.epcompanion.org) and other AIA-approved or sponsored seminars and workshops could also be done after hours or on weekends to apply toward some of the required training hours. In reality, due to the diversity of experiences you will need to acquire in the IDP, most candidates with professional degrees take about three years.2. Pre-professional 4 year degree in architecture which is approved by the Illinois Architecture Licensing Board and is accepted for direct entry into a 2 year NAAB-accredited M. Arch. program: 9,360 Training Hours, or approximately 4 1/2 years.
Q6. When can I start my NCARB Record?
A. You can start counting training hours in your NCARB Record while working in an architectural firm after graduation from high school.
If you are enrolled in a community college architectural program, you may start counting training hours when you begin to work in an architectural firm. Once you have completed 8 consecutive weeks working in an architectural firm for at least 15 hours per week, you will be granted the right to earn training hours in all other work settings, such as working for a contractor or engineer, and you will be eligible to earn training hours doing supplemental education and professional and community service.
If you are enrolled in a college professional degree program (B. Arch. or M. Arch.) or pre-professional degree program (B.A. or B.S. in Architectural Studies), you may start counting training hours while working for an architect or in any other work setting, such as working for a contractor or engineer. You are also eligible to earn training hours doing supplemental education and professional and community service.
Q7. Does my summer experience count?
A. Yes, if you work at least 15 hours per week for a period of 8 consecutive weeks working for an architect, engineer, interior designer, planner, landscape architect, or contractor.
Q8. Does part time work count?
A. Yes, if you work at least 15 hours per week for a period of 8 consecutive weeks working for an architect, engineer, interior designer, planner, landscape architect, or contractor.
Q9. Do I have to work in an architectural firm?
A. No, you may satisfy the Training Hour requirements in non-architectural firms that provide "in-house" architectural services (not to the general public), such as governmental bodies that have architectural departments (park districts, school districts, the Capitol Development Board of the State of Illinois, or municipal governments) or corporations (like Walgreens or McDonalds), as long as you are performing architectural duties under the direct supervision of a licensed architect.
In addition, you may earn up to 3,720 Training Hours in firms which provide some but not necessarily a full range of architectural services, as long as you are performing architectural duties under the direct supervision and control of a licensed architect. These types of firms may be developers, engineering firms, interior design firms, or planners. Note that under the Illinois Architectural Act requirements, if a firm of any type offers architectural services to the public (not "in-house" services which are not offered to the public) one of the following conditions must be met:
1. The firm must be a "sole proprietorship" solely owned by an Illinois licensed architect, structural engineer or professional engineer."Direct supervision" means regular contact with your supervisor who also is working in the same firm, although he or she may not necessarily be located in the same office as you are. Under Illinois law, if the company you work for does not have an architect or engineer on its full time staff, but simply hires a consulting architect or engineer to provide them with professional services, the time you spend working in that situation will not count. Be aware of the fact that outside consulting architects who come into the firm to review your work and apply their license seal to drawings that you have prepared are not practicing legally in Illinois and most other states, and are subject to suspension or termination of their license by the Department of Professional Regulation.2. The firm must be a "corporation" or "partnership" registered with the Illinois Department of Professional Regulation as a "Professional Design Firm," the person having responsibility for the architectural services must be a General Partner in a Partnership or Director of the firm if it is a Corporation, and two thirds of the Partners or Directors must be licensed architects, structural engineers or professional engineers in any state.
You can earn up to 1,880 Training Hours working under the direct supervision of a licensed structural, civil, mechanical, or electrical engineer.
You can earn up to 1,880 Training Hours working under the direct supervision of a registered (or licensed) landscape architect.
You can earn up to 936 Training Hours working in interior design firms, space planning firms, contracting firms, construction management firms, or planning firms, under the direction of a person experienced in those activities.
Note that under the IDP training guidelines, you will be required to have a wide variety of training experiences. You may not be able to acquire all of those training experiences in some types of non-traditional firms, but you could possibly earn Training Hours in some of these training areas using the NCARB-approved supplementary educational materials.
Q10. Does work in a foreign country get credit?
A. Yes, you can earn up to 1,880 Training Hours for all work performed in a foreign country, as long as you work under the direct supervision and control of an architect who is "credentialed" to practice architecture in that country under their laws, or whose registration is recognized by that country as being equivalent to their own (for instance, you may work under the supervision of a British-registered architect in India or Singapore). Furthermore, if you are working under a US-licensed architect abroad, all of your experience can count.
Q11. I started my IDP Council Record in Georgia and recently moved to Illinois. How do I transfer my Council Record to Illinois?
A. There is no need to do any transfer. You will get full credit for your IDP training earned in Georgia (or any other state, for that matter), as long as it is acceptable to NCARB. That is one of the great advantages of IDP - it is "portable." You only need to let NCARB know you moved so they will be able to send your future forms and record of your experience to your new address. Note that NCARB normally communicates with you via e-mail, so keep them current with your e-mail address.
Q12. Who is going to verify that I actually did what I said I did?
A. Your employer. Under IDP rules, you must have an IDP Supervisor, who is a person who supervises your work on a daily basis and who periodically certifies your record of training and supplementary education. IDP Supervisors do not always have to be architects (for example, in the case where you are working for an engineer or interior design firm). However, if an architect is your IDP Supervisor, he or she must be a licensed architect in Illinois. Obviously, your IDP Supervisor could change from time to time, as you are assigned other duties in a firm, move to different cities, or simply change jobs.
Note that if you falsify your training information (such as exaggerating time earned or mis-reporting the training category), NCARB will not give you any credit for the period covered by the falsified training, and they will also deny any training credit for the entire year following that reporting date. After that year of "lock-out" NCARB will then internally review the incident and make a determination whether or not to reactivate your record. The strong message is to be truthful in the information you submit to NCARB.
Your IDP Supervisor may also verify your professional and community service. Your IDP Supervisor may ask for verification of this experience from you, but NCARB does not require any additional letters or proof.
Q13. Who else is involved in my internship?
A. You may also want to select a Mentor. A Mentor is an architect licensed in any state who meets with you periodically to review your training progress and discuss your career goals. Your Mentor serves as a traditional "mentor." For example, Frank Lloyd Wright's "Mentor" was Louis Sullivan, who Wright called his "Lieber Meister." He or she may ask before you meet that you write down and update your short and long-range goals for yourself. You may want to ask a friend, a former professor, or another architect in your firm to serve as your Mentor. In a situation where you are not working anywhere, you may have your Mentor verify your professional and community service training hours.
Q14. I heard that I can defer repayment of my student loans if I enroll in the IDP program. Is that true?
A. Yes, but only if the federally insured student loan was granted prior to July 1, 1993. After that date it is at the discretion of the lender. There is a form that you can get from your loan company which requires two signatures to verify that you are enrolled in an official apprenticeship program. The first signature is the "Program Official," which is your Employer. The second signature is the Director of the Illinois Department of Professional Regulation. Call M. David Brim, Design Professions Coordinator, in Springfield, telephone (217) 785-0877, to obtain this second signature.
Q15. My firm has a continuing education program. How can I get credit for attendance at their seminars?
A. If your firm can establish that their continuing education seminars are "experience-based," that is, they will significantly involve actual observing or participating in producing architectural services, you will be able to claim all the time you spend in that program, just as if you were actually working and getting those experiences. If, however, your firm's continuing education program is of an academic nature (lectures, reading materials, tests, etc.), it must be pre-approved by the AIA under their "CES" (Continuing Education System) program.
Q16. Does the CSI specifications education course qualify for supplementary education?
A. Yes.
Q17. Is it possible to get Training Hour credit for attending AIA-sponsored or CSI-sponsored educational seminars?
A. Yes, as long as the seminars and workshops are sponsored by an AIA Certified Continuing Education System provider, and they will award "Learning Unit" credit to licensed architects. When you attend an AIA-approved provider program, you can have your Learning Unit Hours recorded in the database kept by the AIA. Even if you are not an AIA member, the AIA will maintain a record of your supplementary education so that you may apply it toward your IDP Training Hours. In order to set up an account to have the AIA keep track of this information, you will have to go to the AIA's Emerging Professional's Companion (EPC) web site: www.epcompanion.org. By signing up for the EPC (it is free), you will be assigned an AIA number for use in tracking your credits. The AIA-issued number is not an AIA member number. The number will be sent to you in a response e-mail from the AIA along with your Emerging Professional's Companion login information. Keep track of the number. You may want to keep a copy of it at you workplace, also, to be able to get credit for those lunch-hour brown bag seminars that many offices have. You will need to sign in or register with that new number when you attend an AIA-approved education provider program. This could be any activity from an in-office vendor lunch seminar to an AIA chapter activity. If a program offers AIA/CES credit, then it will also earn you credit toward your NCARB Record. Be certain that you sign in or register for the program using the AIA's EPC number and not your NCARB number. The program provider will submit attendance information to the AIA, which keeps track of these records. If you complete an activity on your own, such as the questions for a continuing education article from Architectural Record, then you are responsible for submitting the paperwork to NCARB. To earn credit for any type of supplementary education, NCARB requires an official transcript be submitted to NCARB. You may download a copy of your transcript from the AIA at any time. You must sign in for the continuing education program using your AIA member number or a number assigned to you by AIA, not your NCARB number.
Formula for translation from AIA "Learning Units" (LU) to your IDP "Training Hours": 1 contact hour of the seminar or workshop = 1 LU = 1 Training Hour
Q18. I received a FIDER-accredited degree in Interior Design 3 years ago. After graduating, I worked two years for an architect, doing architectural drawings. Now I am enrolled in graduate school, working on a Masters Degree in Architecture. Does my experience prior to enrolling in graduate school count toward my required IDP training?
A. Yes.
Q19. I have a degree in Interior Design and plan on doing free-lance interiors work. Does that work earn Training Units?
A. No. To earn Training Hours, you must be employed and work under the direct and daily supervision and control of a qualified interior designer.
Q20. How do I keep the record of my experience?
A. You keep the record of hours you worked on an the E-evr provided to you by NCARB. You will fill it out at least every six months, checking off what kind of work you have done and what category it falls under, and how many hours you worked in each category. You then send it to NCARB, who will, in turn send it to your employer to verify via e-mail. If you have any questions about which category your work should be applied to, talk to your state IDP coordinator. NCARB will then review your record, check your category assignments, and send you a "Periodic Assessment Report." NCARB requires you to report all experience within 8 months after you have earned it.
Q21. Does my previous experience count?
A. Yes, but only for the last 8 months.
Q22. Can I be licensed in Illinois if I am not a U.S. Citizen?
A. Yes.
Q23. I have had a dispute with my boss and he fired me. I need him to sign my IDP verification of employment to get credit for the work I did at his office, and have sent the forms to NCARB and NCARB sent them to him but he refused to sign them. Can I force him to sign?
A. There is no legal risk or cost involved to your former boss by his verification of your employment. This has been a requirement of the Illinois Architectural Act nearly since its creation. As a future practicing professional, you should always strive to maintain good relations with all members of the construction industry. Your employment and business reputation are built on good references from past employers. However, if an architect refuses to verify your IDP E-evr, your first recourse could be to have your IDP Coordinator call your former employer to officially request their cooperation. If that does not get the job done, you may contact the Illinois Architecture Licensing Board to speak with your former employer, to inform them that your request is reasonable, that they have responsibility to sign, and that their verification of your employment will have no legal or financial impact on their business. This will normally get you what you need. In a very difficult case, you may have to take legal action as a last resort.
Q24. I have been working for a small architectural firm for the past year, and have put in many hours of overtime for which I was paid at my regular hourly rate. I have heard that I should have been paid at "time-and-a-half" rate. What is the law on this?
A. "Professional" employees are exempt from the federal wage and labor laws and therefore are not required to be paid at the "time-and-a-half" rate for overtime. However, "interns" are not classified as professionals under this law, since they are pursuing architectural licensing, they cannot seal drawings for construction, and they must work under the supervision and control of a qualified professional. In order to be classified as a professional under the federal labor law, the employee must make be able to do all of the following:
1. Make independent judgements about her or his work.Interns are typically not given that kind of role in their work, and are therefore non-exempt from the wage and labor laws. Courts have determined that non-exempt workers must be paid at the "time-and-a-half" hourly wage rate after working 40 hours in one week. The size of the firm does not matter. I have received a number of questions from interns about this issue asking for specific information regarding court cases. At this point, I have only the information from reading the labor law itself in the Code of Federal Regulations which can be found in any public library at 29 CFR Part 541. Particularly applicable is the discussion of nonexempt work in paragraph.2. Act without the approval of her or his supervisor.
3. Affect the essential operations of the enterprise without supervisory approval.
See section 541.308: http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/minwage.htm for more information. You should be aware, however, that a few very large architectural firms have established agreements with the U.S. Department of Labor to classify some of their interns as exempt from the wage and hour laws based on their assignment to tasks in the office which requires the consistent exercise of discretion and judgement in the performance of their work. If you want to pursue the issue with your firm, you should seek counsel of an attorney specializing in labor law.
Q25. I am a freshman in an architectural program and plan on working construction during the summer break. Can I get Training Hour credit for work under the IDP guidelines?
A. Yes, as long as the architectural program is accredited by the NAAB, or is a 4-year program that will allow the student to transfer to a 2-year M. Arch. program.
Q26. I have a pre-professional B.S. degree in architecture, and am currently enrolled in a 3 year M.Arch. degree program. I took a year off between graduating and enrolling in the Masters degree program and worked for an architect during that time. Does that year's experience count?
A. Yes.
Q27. I work full time (37.5 hours per week) for one architectural firm and also work part time (15 hours per week ) for another firm. Does the part time work count toward my Training Unit requirements?
A. Yes. However, if you had worked less than 15 hours per week, the second job would not count. In addition, for part time work to count, you must work for that same firm for a minimum of 8 consecutive weeks. In addition, if you worked 35 or more hours per week for the second firm, instead of 15 hours per week (don't laugh -- it has happened) it would also count. NCARB classifies full time work as 35 hours per week or more. Part time work is a minimum of 15 hours per week.
Q28. I am volunteering for Habitat for Humanity about 8 hours per month as a construction worker, and would like to get credit for that time. Can I do that?
A. Yes. You can credit the full amount of your volunteer time in the "Related Activities" Category, under the "Professional and Community Service" area. Your IDP Supervisor (that is, your boss at your full time job) may sign off on those hours. He or she may wish to verify with your volunteer organization that you have actually put in the number of hours you have claimed. You can claim any volunteer work up to 80 Training Hours under the Professional and Community Service area even if you are not employed by an architect, or are a student. In that case, your supervisor in the community service project will verify your time.
Q29. Where else can I go to fulfill my Professional and Community Service training requirements?
A. You have many choices, some of which are listed below:
- Become an active member of an AIA committee at the local, state or national level.
- Volunteer for "Chicago Cares" which creates, manages and leads 200 original group volunteer projects each month serving children, adults, seniors, the environment, the hungry and homeless and more.
- Volunteer for your community's plan commission, historic preservation commission, zoning board of appeals, building appeals board, or any other governmental committee.
- Participate in a political campaign.
- Be a volunteer speaker in your local elementary or high school.
- Be a juror in an architecture school design class.
- Tutor students
- Volunteer in organizations such as those listed below:
- Great Lakes Disability and Business IT Center - Robin Jones (312) 413-1407.
- Illinois Department of Human Services, Bureau of Accessibility & Workplace Safety - Martha Younger-White (312) 793-1565.
- Read to the blind for your local library.
- Teach Sunday school for your church.
Q30. I am working in a design-build firm where my supervisor is a licensed engineer. I am doing document checking and coordination (Category A) work and construction observation (Category B) work. In which category do I record my experience?A. You record all of your experience in that employment setting under Category D, Engineering Activities. Note that there is a maximum of 1,880 Training Hours applied to your IDP training in this setting.
Q31. After graduation, I intend to open an architectural firm and hire a licensed architect to work for me. Can I earn Training Hours in that situation?
A. No. Illinois rules prevent you from earning IDP credit as a "principal" in a firm. After all, you are supposed to be in training. (Note that NCARB does accept this in those few states that allow Interns to be "principals" as long as they are "supervised"). Furthermore, in order for your architectural firm to legally practice architecture in Illinois, it must be registered with the Illinois Department of Professional Regulation as a "Professional Design Firm." In order to qualify for registration, the person having responsibility for the architectural services must be a General Partner in a Partnership organization or must be a Director of the firm if it is organized as a Corporation, and two thirds of the Partners or Directors must be architects, structural engineers or professional engineers licensed in any state. This would not be the case if you had a business in which there were only one architect and you as owners/partners.
Q32. I work as an independent contractor for an architect an average of 40 hours per week. Can I receive Training Hour credit for that experience?
A. Yes, as long as the firm you are providing these services to has established an IDP Supervisor who has direct supervision of your work.
Q33. I work for a temporary employment placement agency and am sent to firms to work on a specific project, but I am paid only by the temp agency. Can I receive Training Unit credit for that experience?
A. Yes, as long as each experience in the architectural offices to which you are assigned is at least 8 weeks in duration for a minimum of 15 hours per week. In this situation, your fringe benefits and unemployment insurance are paid for by the temp agency, so you are not an "independent contractor" in the eyes of the Labor Department or IRS. However, the architectural firm in which you are temporarily placed will need to assign someone to be your IDP Supervisor and verify your Training Hours. Although the E-evr requires that your IDP Supervisor verify that you have been "employed" by them during the time period for which you are recording your Training Hours, the word "employed" in this context will not get them into trouble or hold them responsible for later paying further benefits to you. Your temp agency cannot verify your E-evr, because they do not know what you are doing for the architectural firm. If your IDP Supervisor is hesitant to verify your employment, please have him or her speak with Frank Heitzman at (708) 848-8844.
Q34. Can I get credit for the Professional and Community Service requirement even though my service time was not architecturally related?
A. Yes. You can get credit for time spent doing anything for any legitimate public service organization, or church-related organization, as long as it is for the betterment of the community. It does not have to have anything to do with architecture.
Q35. I have a degree in architecture from a foreign country. Can I earn Training Hours towards my required IDP requirements and become eligible to take the Architecture Registration Examination?
A. You may be able to do this if your degree is shown to be the equivalent of an architectural degree in this country. To find out whether it is or not you must complete an "Educational Evaluation Service for Architects (EESA) NCARB Evaluation Report." For information regarding EESA/NCARB evaluations please email NAAB at (eesa@naab.org) or call at (202) 638-3372 . To download an application form for an EESA/NCARB evaluation click here. It takes about 2 months to complete and costs $1,760.00. Note that only an EESA Evaluation report is accepted by NCARB. Since Illinois defers its judgement on this issue to NCARB, no appeal to the Illinois Licensing Board of NCARB's decision is permitted.
Q36. I am enrolled in an architectural program which requires me to work in an architectural firm prior to my senior year in college. I am getting college credit for this internship. Can I also get Training Hour credit for the time spent working?
A. Yes, but only if the college credit you earn for the internship exceeds the total required credit hours (both "core" and elective) for graduation.
Q37. I work for an architectural firm which has put me on "temporary loan" to another firm for a period of several weeks. Who will verify my employment and sign for the training unit credit for the firm in which I am temporarily placed?
A. In this situation, the supervisor in the firm in which you are temporarily working becomes your "IDP Supervisor" and will verify that you were working in their offices on your E-evr. The firm which pays you and which lent you out does not have to do anything during this period, since they are not supervising you.
Q38. I have been working for an architectural firm that only designs single family homes. Can I get all of my Training Hours in that firm?
A. Yes. However, if you are first licensed in another state and want to be licensed in Illinois by reciprocity, you may be required by the Illinois Licensing Board to work for another firm for some period of time in order to gain experience in other building types.
Q39. I have begun to take the Architectural Registration Examination in another state which does not require completion IDP prior to taking the ARE. Will Illinois accept the results of the divisions I have already passed?
A. Only if you have a B. Arch. or M. Arch. degree. With a B.A. or a B.S. pre-professional degree in architecture, you must complete your IDP before taking the ARE and then apply for licensure in Illinois by "Endorsement." Note that Illinois also allows taking the ARE prior to completion of IDP, however, you must have received a B. Arch. or M. Arch. degree first.
Q40. How are Architects regulated in other countries?
A. I'm glad you asked. Not as much as in the USA and Canada. According to Garry Stevens, author of The Favored Circle: The Social Foundations of Architectureal Distinction, MIT Press, 1998 (web site http://www.archsoc.com/kcas/RegulatingArchitects.html ), paraphrased as follows: "One of the striking things about architecture is the tremendous variety of ways in which different countries have decided to regulate it (or not). Some countries, such as the United Kingdom, Turkey, New Zealand, The Netherlands and Australia, will let anyone do the work of the architect, and only restrict the title of architect.
A very few places have even tighter restrictions. In Austria, not only do you have to have a degree from an Austrian university, but you must also be an Austrian citizen to practice. No foreigner can be an architect in Austria.
How you acquire the title is also quite variable. In many countries anyone with a degree in architecture is entitled to call themselves an architect, even if they have never laid a pen to paper: Belgium, France, Egypt and Peru do it this way. The Japanese, on the other hand, require no degree, and only ask for a few years training in an architectural office, followed by an examination. In Korea you don't even have to finish high school, but you must complete 14 years of practical experience. Graduate with an architecture degree, though, and this reduces to five years.
What you need to know varies from nation to nation. Australian architects would be considered defective in those countries whose education imparts a lot of structural engineering knowledge to the architect. Spanish architects deal with highly technical buildings, such as industrial plants, that English-speaking architects tend to leave to engineers. Similarly, architects in the Benelux countries produce technical drawings that would be handled by engineers in Australia. Norwegian architects also invariably handle town-planning.
Finally, in quite a few countries there are neither any restrictions on who can use the title architect nor on the sort of work that people can do. In Denmark, Finland, Ireland, Norway and Sweden, they have decided that as long as the buildings accord with building regulations, they don't really care who designs them. "
Q41. I have a degree in architecture from a Canadian University. Can I become licensed in Illinois?
A. Yes. The Illinois Architect Licensing Act Rules state that the following degrees are acceptable in Illinois: "...a professional degree in architecture from a Canadian university certified as accredited by CACB," or "A pre-professional 4 year baccalaureate degree program in architecture approved by the Board in accordance with Section 1150.50 of this Part, which is accepted for direct entry into a professional Master of Architecture degree program accredited by the NAAB or the CACB..."
Q42. I have worked in Canada and earned internship credit under the IAP program. Can this experience transfer to Illinois?
A. Yes. The Canadian IAP has been accepted by NCARB as equivalent to the IDP. You simply need to submit your IAP records to NCARB to get an IDP Record. To find out more about how to become registerd with a Canadian license, go to http://www.ncarb.org/Certification-and-Reciprocity/Reciprocity-Overview/Reciprocity-Between-the-United-States-and-Canda.aspx .
Q43. Which states require a professional degree for licensure?
A. 35 of the 55 NCARB member states and territories require a professional degree - either a B. Arch. or an M. Arch. degree. They are the following:
Alabama Alaska Arkansas Connecticut Delaware District of Columbia Florida Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Montana Nebraska Nevada New Jersey New Mexico North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Puerto Rico Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Utah Virginia West Virginia Wyoming Illinois (after January 1, 2014)
The following 20 states and territories require only a 4-year pre-professional degree (some still even require only a high school diploma) - but remember that you cannot receive NCARB Certification unless you have a professional degree - the NCARB Certification will allow you to be licensed in any state or territory without question:
Arizona California Colorado Georgia Guam Hawaii Idaho Illinois (until December 31, 2013) Maine Maryland Missouri New Hampshire New York Northern Mariana Islands Tennessee Texas Vermont Virgin Islands Washington Wisconsin
Q44. Must I have an NCARB Certificate in order to be licensed in Illinois through reciprocity (also called "by endorsement")?
A. No, but if you do have an NCARB Certificate it will speed the process of becoming licensed in Illinois. In order to receive an NCARB Certificate you must have all of the following:1. Have a professional degree from an NAAB-accredited college (a B. Arch. or an M.Arch.)
2. Have completed IDP
3. Have passed all divisions of the ARE
4. Be registered (that is, "licensed") in another state
5. Pay for and receive the NCARB Certificate
Q45. Can I engage in architectural competitions and use that time to fulfill my "Professional and Community Service" requirements?
A. Yes, whether or not you are working for an architectural firm.
Q46. I have not completed all divisions of the ARE but three years have passed. How can I re-enroll for the exam?
A. You will have to submit an application for licensure by examination (4 pages), with an $100.00 fee (certified check or money order) payable to Continental Testing Services Inc., a "Work History" form, the NCARB Record, and an affidavit that you have read and understand the Illinois Architecture Practice Act and Administrative Rules. The application form is available on the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation website at http://www.idfpr.com/dpr/apply/forms/ar-ex.pdf
You will need to send all of this to Continental Testing Services, Inc., P.O. Box 100, LaGrange, IL 60525-0100. You will be given credit for all divisions you have previously passed. If the Illinois rules for licensure have changed from what they were previously, you will be made to comply with the new rules when you make your application for re-enrollment.
Q47. What is this "Rolling Clock" I hear about?
A. On January 1, 2006, NCARB began a five year "rolling clock," which means from that date on, you must pass all nine divisions within a five year period. If you have already passed all divisions prior to that date, no matter how long it took you to do so, you will be considered by NCARB to have passed the ARE.
Let's look at two other different scenarios:
1. All divisions of the ARE are taken after January 1, 2006:
- You take Division 1 on February 2, 2006 and pass it. Your five year rolling clock window now will close on February 2, 2011. That means that you have until that date to pass all other divisions.
- You take Division 2 on March 2, 2006 and pass it. Your rolling clock window closing date to pass all other divisions remains the same, February 2, 2011.
- You take Division 3 on April 1, 2006 but fail it. Your rolling clock window closing date to pass all divisions, including re-taking and passing Division 3, remains the same, February 2, 2011.
- You take Divisions 4 through 9 before February 2, 2011, but were not able to re-take and pass failed Division 3 before that date. The rolling clock window will now begin from the date you took and passed Division 2, on March 2, 2006. That means your rolling clock window closing date to pass all divisions, including re-taking and passing Division 3, as well as any divisions passed before March 2, 2006 moves to March 2, 2011. Now you must not only take and pass the failed Division 3 prior to March 2, 2011, but you also must re-take and pass again Division 1. If you do not pass those two Divisions by March 2, 2011, your rolling clock window closing date will move to five years from the date you took and passed the next Division in sequence.
2. Some divisions of the ARE were taken before January 1, 2006 and some are taken after that date:
- You have taken and passed Division 1 before January 1, 2006. This Division will never have to be re-taken.
- You take Division 2 on February 2, 2006 but fail it. Your five year rolling clock window will not have begun yet. It begins on the day you take your first passed exam.
- You take Divisions 3 on March 2, 2006 and pass it. Your five year rolling clock window will close on March 2, 2011. That means that you have until March 2, 2011 to pass all other divisions, including re-taking and passing Division 2.
- In other words, the entire length of time spent to complete all nine divisions (except for those Divisions passed prior to January 1, 2006, which are exempt) must never exceed five years.
Q48. My boss will not verify my "Professional and Community service" experience on my E-evr because he says that he cannot verify that I actually did it. What can I do?
A. You can provide him with a notarized statement from the person who supervised your community service activities. The statement should explain the nature of the activities and verify total hours spent by the intern.
Q49. What is the current Architectural Registration Examination?
A. NCARB is now administrating ARE version 4.0 which consists of seven divisions as follows:Building Design and Construction Systems (replacing "Building Design - Materials and Methods" and "Building Technology”) : 85 multiple choice questions and 3 graphic vignettes "Accessibility Ramp," "Roof Plan," and "Stair Design"
Building Systems (replacing "Mechanical and Electrical Systems"): 95 multiple choice questions and 1 graphic vignette "Mechanical and Electrical Plan"
Construction Documents and Services (same as existing); 100 multiple choice questions and 1 graphic vignette "Building Section"
Programming, Planning & Practice (replacing "Pre-Design"): 85 multiple choice questions and 1 vignette "Site Zoning"
Schematic Design (replacing "Building Planning"): 2 vignettes "Building Layout" and "Interior Layout"
Site Planning and Design (replacing "Site Planning"): 65 multiple choice questions and 2 vignettes "Site Design" and "Site Grading"
Structural Systems (replacing "General Structures" and "Lateral Forces"): 125 multiple choice questions and 1 vignette "Structural Layout"
The former exam, ARE 3.1, was given up until the end of June, 2009. If you have not passed the ARE 3.1 divisions listed below by June 30, 2009 then you must take the following ARE 4.0 divisions:
Q50. Can I earn Training Hours for Supplemental Education while not employed and while still in school?
A. I am glad you asked. Here is the answer:1. You can earn supplementary education Training Hours while you are an architectural student whether you are employed or not. This includes volunteer work for organizations like Habitat for Humanity, attending AIA seminars and workshops that are approved for continuing education and offer LU credit, reading and responding to articles in magazines like Architectural Record that offer LU units to architects. You must submit an official transcript for continuing education activities and have your attendance registered in the AIA database.
2. Your instructor can verify your E-evr.
3. Your mentor may verify your EPCompanion modules if you are not employed.
Q51. I have a license in another state. How can I become licensed by "reciprocity" in Illinois?
A. To become licensed in Illinois through reciprocity, or "by endorsement" as Illinois law calls it, use the same form that a candidate for first registration would use (there is a special section for licensure by endorsement on the form). The form is found at : http://www.idfpr.com/renewals/apply/forms/ar-end.pdfIt says on the form you need to submit the following:
1. Properly completed 4-page Application for Licensure and/or Examination. (See page 2.) Do not state "See NCARB Record" on the application form.
2. A signed and dated affidavit attesting you have read and understand the Illinois Architecture Practice Act and Administrative Rules. (No form provided.) [The act and rules are linked from my web site.]
3. IDP Record for applicants initially licensed after August 9, 1998.
4. NCARB Council Certification, issued by and forwarded directly to the Department by the NCARB, OR the documents listed in (a)(b) and (c) below:
(a) Properly completed Supporting Document ED-ARC. This document must have the school seal affixed. If you do not have a professional degree from an NAAB accredited collegiate school of architecture, an official sealed transcript indicating all credit hours earned must be submitted in lieu of the ED-ARC form.
(b) Supporting Document CT-ARC. This document must be completed by the jurisdiction of original licensure and the jurisdiction of current licensure. If examinations were passed in different states, verification from each state is required. If any portion of the examination was passed in Illinois, you must indicate this in Part IV of the application. You are authorized to photocopy this form, if necessary. You must direct the licensing agency/board to return the completed document directly to you in a sealed envelope to be
submitted with your application.
(c) Properly completed Supporting Document VE-ARC. This document must be completed by the licensed architect(s) for whom you worked to verify your architectural experience. Applicants who are sole
proprietors or are the sole architect in the firm may complete the VEARC form. Applicants who have an NCARB IDP record must submit a VE-ARC to verify your professional experience since completion of
your IDP.
Q52. Can I earn Training Hour credit for becoming a LEED Accredited Profesional?
A. Yes. You will be able to earn 40 Training Hours in "Supplementary Education" for passing the LEED AP exam. Write “LEED AP Exam” on line 17 in your E-evr under Professional and Community Service, and indicate 40 Training Hours in the column for Supp Ed. You will also need to send proof with your E-evr, which can be the information printed from the USGBC website indicating you passed the LEED exam.
Q53. Can I take the ARE prior to IDP in Illinois?
A. Yes, but only if you have a B. Arch. or M. Arch. degree. If you have a B.A. or B.S. pre-professional degree in architecture, you wil have to finish IDP first.
Q54. What is the deal with "contemporaneous reporting" of Training Units?
A. Beginning in July 1, 2009, you will be required by NCARB to submit your IDP E-evr in periods reflecting no more than 6 months experience at a time. You will have no longer than 2 months from the end date of the reporting period to submit your training units.Examples
Example 1: An intern taking maximum advantage of the reporting and filing periods would have through August 30 to report Training Units that were earned during the six month period starting January 1 and ending June 30. While the reporting period is a maximum of six months, the filing period could be any time on or after June 30 through August 30.Example 2: Same example as above, but there is an incidental problem with the report or supplementary information is required and it takes additional time for NCARB and the intern to resolve. The intern may still count the time between January 1 and June 30 once the problem is resolved and accepted by NCARB.
Example 3: An intern reporting Training Units earned between January 15 and April 14 must report these Training Units by June 4, two months after the end ofthe period being reported. If, for some reason, an intern missed his or her intended filing date of June 14, because only four months of Training Units were being reported, the intern could extend the reporting period and not lose any credits. It is anticipated that the online reporting form will advise the intern at the time he or she is filing the report that the filing date is more than two months after the end of the reporting period and, if such is the case, also advise that either a longer period must be reported (but never more than six months) or a later beginning date to the reporting period must be entered. So, if the intern missed the intended filing date of June 14 and actually filed on July 1,
he or she could file on July 1 for the reporting period beginning on January 15 and ending on May 1.Example 4: If an intern attempts to file a Training Unit report on October 3 for a period covering January 1st through July 14, the report will not be accepted. The intern must recalculate and resubmit the report. In this example, February 4 is the earliest possible start date for a Training Unit report submitted on October 3 and any units accumulated from January 1st through February 3 would be lost. If February 4 was used as the start date, then the reporting period would end on August 3, six months later, and the intern could file his or her report on October 3.
Example 5: An intern has become a new parent or adopted a child on January IS. Before taking a leave of absence on January I, the intern had completed six months of work (July 1 December 31). Whereas the intern would normally be expected to file the Training Unit report by February 28, following a documented and approved request the intern would be given until May 31 to file this report.
Example 6: An intern has been called to active military duty on Jam/GlY IS. Before this event, the intern had worked until December 31, having completed six months of work (July 1 December 31) that could be reported for Training Unit credit. Whereas the intern would normally be expected to submit the Training Unit report by February 28, following a documented and approved request, the intern would be given a reasonable extension for filing this report following the intern's end of active military duty.
Example 7: Similar to Example 6, an intern who has experienced a serious medical condition could, with appropriate and approved documentation from a licensed medical doctor overseeing the intern's care, be allowed a reasonable extension of the two-month filing period.
Q55. When performing site observation (Category B-13 "Construction Phase - Observation") work, do I need to be accompanied by a licensed architect?
A. You do not need to be accompanied by your IDP Supervisor, but may be accompanied by your Mentor, who must be an architect licensed in any state. You do not have to be employed to gain experience in this category. However, if the you are employed under Training Setting A ("Training under the direct supervision of a registered architect and when the organization's practice (a) is in the charge of a person practicing as a principal and (b) encompasses the comprehensive practice of architecture, including each of the training areas"), the concept of Direct Supervision, as described in the IDP Guidelines, must be adhered to. “Direct supervision” means that degree of supervision by a person overseeing the work of another, where both work in the same office in circumstances where personal contact is routine, whereby the supervisor has both control over and detailed professional knowledge of the work prepared under his or her supervision.
Q56. Can Intern Architects Work for Free to Get IDP Experience?
A. Below is the answer in an article by Gregory Hancks, AIA, AIA Associate General Counsel:Employment opportunities are limited for recent architecture graduates who want to fulfill their Intern Development Program (IDP) training requirement. Some firms may be wondering if they can “do good” by giving intern architects work experience in unpaid positions. Generally speaking, federal employment law dictates that the answer is “no.”
The AIA last responded to this question in the early 1990s during another economic downturn. Then, as now, concerns were voiced about how the scarcity of paying jobs could force intern architects into other lines of work, never to return to the practice of architecture. As a result, an entire age group within the profession could be depleted. At the same time, concerns were voiced that intern architects can be exploited by firms because of the pressure on intern architects to obtain work experience for licensure.
More than 10 years ago, the AIA began requiring architects who seek to become Institute officers, directors, or Fellows (or to receive AIA awards or speak at AIA events) to confirm that they do not employ unpaid intern architects. Ultimately, however, the issue is primarily a legal one, not just a matter of AIA policy. Between abiding by federal law, on one hand, and meeting the direct supervision training requirements for IDP, as established by the National Council of Architectural Registration Boards (NCARB), on the other hand, there remains little room for unpaid architectural internships.
Federal law governing labor and employment generally places workers into one of the following three categories:
- Employees—These individuals are protected by minimum wage and other laws and therefore cannot be unpaid. Whether an “employer/employee” relationship exists is determined by objective factors and cannot be precluded simply by the agreement of those involved. The Department of Labor’s Web site provides a good source of general information on this topic. There are various exceptions to the applicability of minimum wage laws to employees, such as for “apprentices” in building trades, but none applies to intern architects.
- Independent Contractors—The work terms of these individuals may be largely set by the parties’ agreement, as long as the workers are not objectively determined to be employees. NCARB policy, however, does not recognize work performed by independent contractors as satisfying IDP requirements. (See page 30 of the IDP Guidelines.) An independent contractor typically does not work under the “direct supervision” that is a hallmark of training.
- Volunteers—Federal law generally prohibits workers from volunteering services to for-profit private-sector employers, as explained on the Department of Labor Web site. Individuals may volunteer services without contemplation of pay to not-for-profit organizations for public service, humanitarian, and personal objectives but not as employees.
This leaves unemployed intern architects and the architects who would wish to provide them with IDP experience (but can’t afford to pay) somewhere between a rock and a hard place. The possibility remains for intern architects to volunteer their services to nonprofit organizations that provide architectural services if the organization can provide a work setting that qualifies under IDP Guidelines. And it may be possible, as well, for intern architects to volunteer services to public sector (state or local government) entities. In either case, however, an intern architect would need to determine whether a particular volunteer/supervisor arrangement would satisfy IDP or state licensing requirements for training. In addition, the nonprofit organization or public-sector entity would need to verify that using the intern architect’s services without pay complies with federal law. After all, nonprofit organizations must comply with employment law with respect to workers they employ.
Q57. Does Illinois have any special rules for passing the ARE before completing IDP?
A. Yes. In Illinois, like most other states you can take the ARE before completing IDP if you have a professional degree. However, you have a time limit of only one year from passing all divisions of the ARE to apply for an Illinois license. Therefore, if you pass all divisions of the ARE more than a year before completing the IDP, you will not be able to become licensed in Illinois. My recommendation for a work-around to this issue is to leave one division left to take about a year before you are scheduled to complete the IDP so you do not exceed the time limit for applying for a license in Illinois. This is a quirk in the Illinois rules that does not exist in other states.